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The Dragon, the Origination of Demons, What the Transgression of Satan Was, and the Story of Fallen Angels

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Christian Gaviria Alvarez

A teacher of righteousness based on the Torah of God, through belief in Yeshuah HaMashiach. Raised as a Gentile through the dispersion of the twelve tribes of Israel among the nations, but a descendant of Abraham not just from belief in the Mashiach, but also from Sephardi ancestors. Born in Florida, United States of America. Currently living in Medellin, Colombia. Formerly a software developer as a profession. Expecting the second coming of the Mashiach in the Year 6000 YB, which will be the 120th Yovel, which will be around 2026 AD. Establishing an assembly in Medellin in preparation for the second coming of the Mashiach. Teaching humility by absolute dry fasting and selling possessions and properties to reduce yourself to what you need, repentance by obeying the Torah, bearing good fruit by giving to the poor and doing good works, removing the mark of the beast by getting rid of all paper money and fiat currency, and perfection by receiving the airflow of God.

2 questions

  • As I said before, I’m open to the idea of angelic deviations. Satan and his angels are primary examples of that. What I’m explaining to you, however, is that the case for angel procreation with humans in Genesis 6 isn’t solid. It’s speculation: speculation that the angelic sins mentioned in Jude are a direct and specific reference to Genesis 6, speculation that angels in Heaven are not sexual but somehow become sexual outside of Heaven, and that if this was, in fact, angels procreating with humans, that doing so is sinful even though no condemnation whatsoever was charged against the “sons of God” for marrying the daughters of men in that chapter of Genesis; if what they did was sinful, why wasn’t it condemned in that narrative? The only way we deem them condemned is if we assume Jude is specifically referencing Genesis 6 (which prompts the question of why Jude thought it was bad when no such condemnation was in the text). The links made here between Jude and Genesis are assumptions, not biblical exposition.

    • What you do not understand is that angels are men, with all the parts included of men, such as male genitalia. And their bodies are different than ours, because they are immortal, so their bodies never grow old and die on their own. Whereas our bodies are mortal, and grow old and die on their own. And in their image we were made. And since a heavenly woman wasn’t made for them, then they are all virgins. Only for the earthly man was an earthly woman made. And that is why they are forbidden from marrying women, because it is an equal union between a heavenly immortal body and an earthly mortal body. That is why several ancient texts allude to this truth of what happened in antiquity, that angels had sex with women on the earth. Even Josephus mentions it. The only reason not to believe this is because of incredulity and lack of understanding, not because ancient texts and the Torah itself don’t teach this.

      or many angels of God accompanied with women, and begat sons that proved unjust, and despisers of all that was good, on account of the confidence they had in their own strength. For the tradition is, that these men did what resembled the acts of those whom the Grecians call Giants.
      The Antiquities of the Jews Book 1, Chapter 3, by Flavius Josephus
      Note: This is merely a reference to an external literature to help strengthen the statements made in this study, and not an endorsement of any other literature or statements made by Flavius Josephus.

      And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: “Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.”
      Book of Enoch Section 1, Chapter 6
      Note: This is merely a reference to an external literature to help strengthen the statements made in this study, and not an endorsement of any other literature or statements made in the Book of Enoch.

      Then the people began to multiply on the earth, and daughters were born to them. The sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose.
      Genesis 6:1-2

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